
This episode features the teams from Latent Holdings and Manifold discussing the strategic overhaul of TaoHash (Subnet 14), a decentralized Bitcoin mining pool, and announcing HONE (Subnet 5), a new subnet aimed at solving the notoriously difficult ARC-AGI-2 benchmark.
TaoHash: A New Design for Decentralized Mining
TaoHash (SN14) is a Bitcoin mining pool on Bittensor designed to combat the centralization of Bitcoin's hash rate. Its original design, however, faced critical flaws. It attempted to pay miners the full value of their mined Bitcoin in Alpha (TAO), creating a fragile system where a drop in Alpha’s price would create a downward spiral, making the subnet unable to sustain its hash rate. Furthermore, the model relied on validators to return Bitcoin proceeds to the subnet, but many simply kept the profits. The redesigned TaoHash now operates like a traditional mining pool: miners receive the Bitcoin they mine directly, minus a small pool fee. The Alpha token now acts as a subsidy, effectively lowering miners' net pool fees to a market-leading ~1.5%, making participation highly attractive and scalable.
HONE: The Hunt for AGI on Subnet 5
Announced as a collaboration between Latent Holdings and Manifold, HONE (Subnet 5) is a new training subnet with a laser-focused mission: solve the ARC-AGI-2 benchmark. Current large language models (LLMs) are notoriously bad at this abstract reasoning task, stagnating at around 5% accuracy. The strategy is to move beyond brute-force scaling and instead train smaller, highly sample-efficient hierarchical models (inspired by concepts like Yann LeCun’s Jepa). The goal is to create a model that can achieve a step-function improvement on the benchmark, demonstrating a more human-like path to intelligence that is both cost-effective and open-source.
Latent Holdings: The Ecosystem's Engine Room
Latent Holdings has become a core pillar of the Bittensor ecosystem, taking over maintenance for critical open-source infrastructure including the SDK, CLI, developer documentation, and wallet. In just six months, their small team has pushed nearly 4,000 commits and over 173,000 lines of code changes, ensuring the network's tooling remains stable, accessible, and well-documented. Their work provides the foundational layer upon which ambitious projects like TaoHash and HONE can be built, making them one of the most significant open-source contributors outside the Opentensor Foundation itself.
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This episode reveals the strategic pivot of TaoHash's Bitcoin mining subnet and introduces HONE, a new venture aiming to solve AGI by pioneering decentralized hierarchical AI training on Bittensor.
Introduction: The Core Contributors Behind Bittensor's Infrastructure
The episode begins with an introduction to key figures from Latent Holdings, a team instrumental in maintaining and decentralizing the Bittensor ecosystem. Host Jake highlights the critical, often behind-the-scenes, work of developers like Cameron (aka "Vune"), who has been a core contributor since 2021, maintaining the Bittensor SDK, API, and other vital infrastructure.
Joseph, representing Latent Holdings, frames their mission as being synonymous with Bittensor's: to make the protocol accessible, understandable, and stable. Latent Holdings has taken over stewardship of essential open-source tooling, including the SDK, CLI, and developer documentation.
TaoHash (Subnet 14): Decentralizing Bitcoin Mining
Abe, the lead for TaoHash, presents Subnet 14 as a category-defining project: an openly owned and accessible Bitcoin mining pool. The core problem TaoHash addresses is the centralization of Bitcoin's network, where just three pools control over 56% of the total hash rate.
TaoHash operates by directing miners' hash rate to the Bitcoin network, rewarding them with both the mined Bitcoin and TAO (the native token of Bittensor, here referred to as "alpha"). The subnet retains a small pool fee, which is returned to TAO holders who have staked on the subnet.
Abe explains the value proposition: "Miners pull hash rate and get paid in alpha. Mined Bitcoin is sent to the miners based on their shares and the pool fee is kept by the subnet. The pool fee is given to the holders returning them value on their stake."
The Original TaoHash Design and Its Flaws
The conversation, prompted by Jake, shifts to the "drama" around TaoHash's initial design and the critical lessons learned. Abe candidly breaks down the original model's four main failures, providing a crucial case study in subnet economics for researchers.
The Redesigned TaoHash: A More Sustainable Model
In response to these challenges, the team completely revamped the economic model. The new design is more resilient, scalable, and aligned with the expectations of traditional Bitcoin miners.
TaoHash's Future Roadmap: A Decentralized Hashrate Marketplace
Abe outlines the future vision for TaoHash, which focuses on further decentralization and the creation of new financial primitives for Bitcoin mining.
Announcing Subnet 5 (HONE): A Collaboration for Hierarchical AI
Rob from Manifold joins to announce a new collaboration with Latent Holdings: Subnet 5, codenamed HONE. This subnet has a highly specific and ambitious mission: to pioneer a new path to AGI by solving the ARC-AGI-2 benchmark through decentralized, hierarchical AI pre-training.
Rob passionately outlines the vision: "We set out to achieve what was once thought impossible, an AI that can learn from minimal examples and solve novel reasoning problems efficiently, ultimately reaching and surpassing the 85% accuracy threshold on the ARC AGI2 benchmark."
The Technical Vision for HONE: Small Models, Big Ambitions
Rob details the technical strategy for HONE, which deliberately avoids competing on model size and instead focuses on architectural innovation. The subnet will train smaller, more efficient models based on concepts like JEPA (Joint Embedding Predictive Architecture), a self-supervised learning method championed by Yann LeCun.
HONE's Incentive Structure and Development Timeline
The discussion concludes with the practical details of HONE's operation and launch. The subnet will use a distributed training mechanism where miners contribute gradients, but the focus is on rapid, low-cost iteration rather than scaling to massive parameter counts.
Conclusion
This episode highlights Bittensor's evolution toward sophisticated, sustainable economic designs. The pivot of TaoHash and the launch of HONE show a strategic shift from broad concepts to solving specific, high-value problems in both crypto and AI, signaling a new phase of maturity and targeted value creation on the network.