Ventura Labs
August 26, 2025

Douglas Albert & Alex Kiriakides: TrustedStake, Bittensor Subnet Index Staking Strategies | Ep. 58

Douglas Albert and Alex Kiriakides, co-founders of the Bittensor staking platform TrustedStake, break down their journey from early crypto mining to building a non-custodial solution that simplifies subnet investing through automated, indexed strategies. They provide a masterclass in how to abstract away complexity to unlock capital flow into a burgeoning decentralized AI ecosystem.

From Bitcoin Mining to a Bittensor Belief

  • "My initial thought was it reminded me a lot of Bitcoin... I had that almost transcendental feeling of this vision that I saw of something that was extremely valuable, something that's extremely needed."
  • The duo’s crypto journey began by working for free at a Bitcoin mining firm, giving them a foundational understanding of the space. After launching a friends-and-family crypto fund, they stumbled upon Bittensor in mid-2022 via a cryptic social media post. The whitepaper immediately clicked, evoking the same profound feeling as the original Bitcoin whitepaper and cementing their conviction in the project's long-term value.

The Non-Custodial Staking Solution

  • "The proxy pallet... allows us to basically stake on behalf of TAO holders without having custody of their wallet... We don't hold your TAO; we can't transfer it."
  • TrustedStake was born from the realization that Bittensor’s growing ecosystem of 128+ subnets was becoming too complex for the average investor to navigate. The platform’s core is built on Polkadot’s proxy pallet, a feature that functions like a smart contract. This allows users to delegate only their staking permissions, enabling TrustedStake to manage allocations non-custodially without ever controlling or having the ability to transfer user funds.

Indexes and Automated Yield Optimization

  • "When the user delegates their staking permissions, within the hour, they are allocated into all of the constituents within that index... and then every hour or so, the staking allocations... are then re-optimized for yield."
  • TrustedStake offers curated, market-cap-weighted indexes to provide diversified exposure to the Bittensor ecosystem. These include a "Top 10" index, a "Blue Chip" index focusing on fundamentally strong subnets, and plans for a broad-market "Bittensor Universe Index" styled after the S&P 500. A key feature is the hourly rebalancer, which automatically optimizes staking allocations across both subnets and validators to maximize yield for users.

An Ethical Mission to Onboard Capital

  • "We have a moral pledge to only delegate to non-weight copying validators. So, we only support honest participants in the network."
  • Beyond technology, TrustedStake operates with a strong ethical framework. They pledge to support only honest validators that contribute genuine value to the network, forgoing relationships with those engaged in "weight-copying." Their ultimate mission is to lower the barrier to entry for both retail and institutional capital, aiming to onboard the "next billion dollars" to fund the innovative companies building on Bittensor.

Key Takeaways:

  • TrustedStake serves as a critical abstraction layer, turning the complexity of Bittensor’s subnet ecosystem into a simple, investable product. Their non-custodial model demonstrates how to build trust and security using native blockchain features.
  • Complexity is an Opportunity. As Bittensor scales, platforms that simplify staking and discovery through curated indexes become essential infrastructure for unlocking capital.
  • Stake Securely and Non-Custodially. Using native features like Polkadot's proxy pallet, users can delegate staking authority without surrendering their private keys, accessing sophisticated strategies without compromising security.
  • Invest for Network Health. The platform’s "moral pledge" to support only honest validators highlights that yield optimization and ethical participation are not mutually exclusive; in fact, the latter is crucial for long-term ecosystem success.

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This episode unpacks the journey of TrustedStake's founders, from early Bitcoin mining to building a non-custodial staking platform that tackles the growing complexity of Bittensor's subnet ecosystem for investors.

Founders' Journey: From Schoolyard Projects to Crypto Mining

Douglas Albert and Alex Kiriakides share a long history, having met in middle school and collaborated on various entrepreneurial projects, including a marketing agency and a pressure washing company. Their entry into crypto was hands-on, working for free at a Greenville, South Carolina-based mining company called Trace Blockchain. This experience provided a foundational education in Bitcoin mining, liquid submersion cooling, and market analysis, setting the stage for their future ventures.

Alex, reflecting on their early dynamic, notes that Douglas was always the technical expert in their friend group, while he focused on the entrepreneurial side. This partnership evolved from early business ideas directly into the crypto space, where they gained practical experience with ASICs and trading fundamentals from industry mentors.

Launching a Fund and Discovering Bittensor

Leveraging their experience, Alex and Douglas launched a friends-and-family crypto investment fund. They navigated the 2021 bull market with a basket of altcoins but faced significant challenges during the 2022 bear market, marked by the FTX collapse. It was during this period of market turmoil, in July 2022, that Alex stumbled upon Bittensor through a post on X (formerly Twitter).

With minimal information available, their research led them to the whitepaper. Alex presented it to Douglas, who, after initial skepticism, became convinced of its potential. Douglas recalls the moment of clarity: "I was pretty mad that we wasted a month... I immediately texted Alex. I was like yeah this is it. Let's let's go heads down on on this one." This conviction prompted them to liquidate other assets and invest heavily in TAO.

First Impressions: The "Bitcoin Whitepaper Vibe"

Douglas describes his first reading of the Bittensor whitepaper as a profound experience, reminiscent of his initial encounter with the Bitcoin whitepaper in 2013. He saw a clear vision for something valuable and necessary, a perfect intersection of his interests in finance and computers.

Beyond the technicals, the early Bittensor community on Discord stood out. Unlike the bot-filled, speculative channels common in crypto, Bittensor's was populated by ML researchers, AI engineers, and seasoned developers. This high-signal environment, combined with the core team's successful execution from the early testnet (Nakamoto) to the mainnet (Finney), solidified their belief in the project's long-term viability.

Bittensor's Evolution and the Rise of DTAO

Having been involved since the single-subnet era, Alex and Douglas have witnessed Bittensor's significant evolution. They highlight the network's resilience through challenges like the "Floppy Fish" network break and other black swan events. Alex identifies the DTAO (Dynamic TAO) update as the most critical change, which transformed the network by splintering it into distinct, competitive intelligence markets for each subnet.

  • DTAO (Dynamic TAO): A major network upgrade that allows each of Bittensor's 32 (and growing) subnets to have its own token, creating independent economic ecosystems and specialized markets for different AI services.

Douglas agrees, emphasizing that the DTAO launch was a massive architectural shift that was executed flawlessly, a testament to the development team's capability.

TrustedStake: Solving the Complexity of Subnet Staking

The DTAO proposal in February 2024 was the catalyst for TrustedStake. The founders anticipated that the proliferation of subnets—now potentially reaching 128—would overwhelm the average TAO investor, creating a barrier to entry. Their solution leverages the Proxy Pallet, a feature native to the Polkadot/Substrate framework on which Bittensor is built.

  • Proxy Pallet: A Substrate-native function that operates like a smart contract, allowing a wallet to grant specific, limited permissions (like staking) to another wallet without transferring custody of the assets.

This technology allows TrustedStake to manage staking allocations on behalf of users in a non-custodial manner. Users retain full control of their funds, while TrustedStake can diversify their stake across subnets and optimize yield without posing a security risk.

Platform Features: Indexes and Hourly Yield Optimization

TrustedStake offers curated staking strategies through indexes, simplifying investment for users. Current offerings include:

  • Top 10 Subnets: A market-cap-weighted index of the leading subnets.
  • TrustedStake Blue Chip Index: A curated selection of subnets the team believes are fundamentally strong, with clear revenue paths and mature liquidity.
  • Creator Indexes: Personalized portfolios like "Doug's Picks," with plans to build a creator economy where others can launch their own indexes.

A key feature is the hourly rebalancer, which automatically optimizes staking allocations across both subnets and validators to maximize yield. Douglas explains that this system is designed to be highly efficient, batching transactions to reduce fees while reacting quickly to market changes.

Investment Thesis and a Pledge to Network Health

TrustedStake's investment thesis focuses on providing diverse, accessible options for investors. They plan to launch sector-specific indexes (e.g., DeSci, AI Compute, Trading) and a comprehensive "Bittensor Universe Index" to offer broad market exposure.

Crucially, the platform has a "moral pledge" to delegate only to validators that do not engage in weight copying—a practice where validators mimic others' work instead of performing genuine validation. This commitment supports honest network participants, even if it means a negligible difference in APY. Douglas frames their mission as onboarding capital to fund legitimate, innovative companies building on Bittensor, such as Corcel and Taoshi.

  • Weight Copying: A dishonest strategy in Bittensor where a validator copies the weights (evaluations) of another successful validator to earn rewards without contributing original work, undermining the network's incentive mechanism.

Business Model and Final Advice

TrustedStake generates revenue by running a child hotkey validator. This validator delegates to the high-performing, honest validators within their indexes and charges a take rate on the staking rewards generated. This take rate functions as a management fee, which they argue is offset by the yield optimization from their hourly rebalancer.

  • Child Hotkey Validator: A validator that delegates its staked TAO to other validators. This allows TrustedStake to participate in the validator ecosystem and earn a fee while distributing user funds across the network.

Alex’s final advice for newcomers is to be curious, do the research, and find genuine enjoyment in the process. He emphasizes that deep engagement with the ecosystem's economics and business models is more valuable than a formal education, as it leads to discovering a niche where one can create value.

Conclusion

This episode highlights how increasing network complexity in ecosystems like Bittensor creates opportunities for sophisticated, user-friendly abstraction layers. For investors and researchers, TrustedStake exemplifies a critical trend: the emergence of non-custodial tools that simplify access, optimize yield, and enforce network health, ultimately lowering the barrier to entry for broader capital allocation.

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