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June 26, 2025

Hivemind: Crypto Feels Stuck, BTC DeFi & Ditching Staking

The Delphi hive mind breaks down a crypto market that feels fundamentally stuck, exploring why capital is avoiding alts, the slow rise of Bitcoin DeFi, and Celestia's radical proposal to ditch staking altogether.

The Great Altcoin Stall

  • "The market has really been moving to try and value stuff off of actual fundamentals and revenue...there's no bid for these things that are just not generating money."
  • "I think crypto is dead is almost becoming somewhat of a consensus among people who used to be full-time in the industry."
  • The market sentiment is tired. Many insiders feel the Ponzi-like "hot potato" games of past cycles are over, leading to a consensus that "crypto is dead" in its speculative form. The market is now rewarding fundamentals and real revenue.
  • Capital is flowing to the path of least resistance. Institutional money is pouring into accessible assets like Bitcoin ETFs, Coinbase, and Circle, but faces too much friction to reach on-chain altcoins, starving them of new liquidity.

Bitcoin's DeFi Sunrise

  • "I'm really bullish on Bitcoin DeFi too. It's just early."
  • "I think the big product is just going to be yield... the more friendly product is just going to be something that provides yield and so that'll probably be what ushers in a decent amount of BTC DeFi."
  • Bitcoin's next act is yield. While BTC’s slow block times make it unsuitable for Degen trading, a new wave of DeFi protocols is emerging to offer yield through lending and stablecoins, catering to long-term holders.
  • Non-custodial BTC is the end goal. While today’s solutions often use wrapped BTC on other chains, projects are building true Bitcoin L2s that use ZK proofs to enable decentralized, non-custodial yield without trusting a third party.

Ditching Staking with Proof of Governance

  • "Economic security from staking is a meme... what gives a chain its security is not the ability to slash a validator but the fact that they'll stop earning fees if they act maliciously for the rest of time."
  • Celestia is pioneering a "Proof of Governance" model that ditches inflationary staking rewards. The thesis is that reputation and future fee-earning potential provide more security than the threat of slashing.
  • This pragmatic model argues that since staking is already permissioned in practice and universal staking just dilutes everyone equally, it’s better to simply pay validators a small fee and burn all protocol revenue. This directly accrues value to all token holders without requiring them to stake.

Key Takeaways:

  • Crypto is undergoing a pragmatic, if painful, maturation. The speculative froth is evaporating, forcing a return to first principles: generating real revenue and creating sustainable economic models.
  • The Money Follows Access: Institutional capital is flooding into regulated, easy-to-buy assets like BTC ETFs and Circle equity. For alts to thrive, the on-ramp friction must be eliminated.
  • Bitcoin's Next Act is Yield: The most compelling emerging narrative is BTC DeFi. Forget Degen trading; the killer app will be providing simple, sustainable yield to BTC's massive holder base.
  • Economic Models are Being Rewritten: Experiments like Celestia's "Proof of Governance" signal a market-wide shift away from inflationary staking rewards toward revenue-burn models that create more direct and durable value for token holders.

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This episode reveals a critical shift in the crypto market, where speculative hype is fading, and investors are demanding real fundamentals, creating a stark divide between Bitcoin's institutional ascent and the struggling altcoin landscape.

Market Navigates Geopolitical Tensions

  • Performative Conflict: Yan Lieberman, Managing Partner at Delphi Ventures, suggests the conflict was largely "performatory," with telegraphed attacks designed to save face rather than escalate into a full-blown war. This perception led to a quick market recovery, with assets like crude oil dropping significantly.
  • Crypto's Desensitization: The speakers reflect on how the inherent volatility of crypto markets has "hardened" them emotionally to such world events. José Macedo from Delphi Labs notes that while a major war would be catastrophic, the crypto market has become desensitized to short-term shocks.
  • Bitcoin as a Weekend Liquidity Tool: A key insight is that Bitcoin's price dip over the weekend was less about fundamental weakness and more about its unique status as a 24/7 liquid asset. When traditional markets are closed, investors sell what they can, which is often BTC. As one speaker puts it, "it's the only thing you can sell on the weekend and so it kind of gets hammered a bit."

The Great Divide: Bitcoin's Institutional Bid vs. Altcoin Stagnation

  • Unrelenting ETF Inflows: The speakers point to the massive, one-way inflows into Bitcoin ETFs (like BlackRock's IBIT) as a primary driver. These are not trading funds but long-term accumulators, absorbing significant supply from the market.
  • The "Equitization" of Crypto: An interesting trend discussed is the "equitization" of crypto's most successful use cases. Instead of tokenization, successful crypto-native companies like Circle and Coinbase are being bid up in traditional equity markets, capturing institutional capital that has more friction moving on-chain.
  • Altcoin Headwinds: Yan identifies several reasons for altcoin underperformance:
    • Burnt-out Capital: Many on-chain participants were "crushed" in previous cycles and lack capital to reinvest.
    • Supply Overhang: A massive amount of new token supply from projects launched over the past two years is now unlocking, creating persistent sell pressure.
    • Friction for Institutional Capital: It remains difficult for large funds to invest directly in altcoins compared to buying BTC ETFs or crypto-related stocks.

The Search for a New Narrative and the Rise of Bitcoin DeFi

  • Is Crypto Dead? José mentions anecdotally hearing that the "crypto is dead" sentiment is growing, particularly among former full-time participants. Yan clarifies this sentiment: "When people say crypto's dead, they mean that kind of... hot potato game... which is not a bad thing." The market is maturing and demanding real, sustainable value.
  • The Promise of Bitcoin DeFi: The discussion turns to Bitcoin DeFi, an emerging category of decentralized finance applications built for the Bitcoin ecosystem. The speakers are bullish on its potential, seeing it as a major future catalyst.
    • Key Players: Projects like Citrea and Alpen Labs are mentioned as building critical infrastructure.
    • The Core Product: The primary use case is expected to be yield generation on BTC, a more accessible product for long-term holders than active trading.
    • Technical Challenge: The main goal is to create non-custodial, trust-minimized wrapped BTC, unlike current centralized versions. This involves complex technology like ZK-proofs to ensure BTC locked on the main chain is verifiably backing the assets on other layers.

Ditching Staking: Celestia's "Proof of Governance" Proposal

  • Proof of Governance Explained: This model operates on three core intuitions:
    1. Staking rewards are ineffective when everyone stakes, as it just leads to universal dilution.
    2. A chain's real security comes from a validator's fear of losing future revenue, not the threat of being slashed.
    3. Validator sets in PoS are already permissioned in practice, not truly open.
  • The Model: Instead of issuing inflationary staking rewards, the chain would pay validators a small, fixed amount from issuance to cover operational costs. All network fee revenue would be burned, directly benefiting all token holders without requiring them to stake.
  • Strategic Implications: The speakers see this as a pragmatic move for an ecosystem like Celestia, which is trying to improve its tokenomics and lacks a deeply entrenched DeFi ecosystem built around liquid staking tokens (LSTs). It represents a broader industry trend of cutting issuance and focusing on real value accrual.

The Perpetual Exchange Wars: Can Anyone Challenge Hyperliquid?

  • Hyperliquid's Moat: The speakers identify several factors contributing to Hyperliquid's success: a strong product, deep liquidity, and a powerful community of token holders who were enriched by its airdrop. You can't easily fork this holder base and origin story.
  • The HIP-3 Innovation: Hyperliquid's HIP-3 proposal, which allows anyone to spin up new trading pairs and earn 50% of the fee revenue, is seen as a brilliant strategic move. It makes it much harder for competitors to win by offering a longer tail of assets, as users can now do this directly on Hyperliquid.
  • The Challenge for Newcomers: While new exchanges may attract temporary volume through airdrop farming, it's difficult to build sustainable liquidity and user loyalty. The speakers note that open interest is a better metric than volume for gauging real activity, as volume can be easily wash-traded.
  • Security Risks: A crucial point is raised about Hyperliquid's custody model, which is described as a "hot multisig" with no rate limits. This presents a significant risk as the platform's total value locked grows, creating a potential attack vector that more security-focused competitors could target.

Conclusion

This episode highlights crypto's maturation, moving from speculative games to a focus on fundamental value. For investors and researchers, the key is to track the flow of institutional capital into Bitcoin-related assets, monitor the development of sustainable revenue models like Bitcoin DeFi, and watch for pragmatic innovations in protocol design.

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