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July 20, 2025

Hash Rate - Ep 122 - ZEUS Weather - Subnet 18 $TAO

This episode dives deep into ZEUS, a Bittensor subnet aiming to revolutionize weather forecasting, with co-founder Voter. They explore how decentralizing AI model creation can outperform centralized giants and what this means for the future of specialized data markets and subnet investing.

The ZEUS Thesis: Niche Over Mass Market

  • ZEUS is not trying to replace your Apple Weather app. Instead, it’s building a decentralized network of AI models to provide hyper-accurate weather data for high-stakes industries where a half-degree error can cost millions.
  • “Our focus is not necessarily for the people because, let's be honest, we all don't care about a 0.5-degree difference... We mainly want to focus on companies that highly depend on accurate weather data.”
    • The primary target is the billion-dollar energy trading market, where predicting sun and wind levels is critical for pricing green energy. Other use cases include Formula 1 racing and agriculture.
    • Instead of fine-tuning a single massive model like competitors, ZEUS allows its miners to develop and run their own specialized models for small, specific geographic areas, rewarding those who perform best for a given location.

39.8% Better Than The Best

  • By tracking historical performance and routing queries to the best-performing miner for any given location, ZEUS’s network has achieved staggering results, validated in a research paper presented at the prestigious ICML AI conference.
  • “We just published a paper... if we utilize this smartly, we can see that miners perform 39.8% better than state-of-the-art models.”
    • This performance is achieved by incentivizing a decentralized network to innovate, a feat ZEUS admits they couldn’t accomplish alone. Their own attempts to mine their subnet failed to beat the independent miners.
    • The system benchmarks miners against both real-world outcomes and a composite of state-of-the-art models, rewarding them for outperforming the best in the world.

The Subnet Flywheel: Beyond $TAO Emissions

  • ZEUS plans to pioneer a new economic model for subnets by directly sharing revenue with its network participants, creating a powerful incentive flywheel that aligns commercial success with network health.
  • “As soon as we are starting to make money, we will just give it back to miners... it will likely be like you pump USDC into all their wallets.”
    • This approach ensures miners and stakers remain incentivized even as $TAO emissions decrease over time, creating a sustainable, long-term business model.
    • This commitment to the ecosystem is born of necessity; ZEUS needs its decentralized miners to maintain its competitive edge, making the subnet structure indispensable to its success.

Key Takeaways:

  • The conversation highlights a powerful investment case for the Bittensor ecosystem, where nascent projects with huge potential are trading at tiny valuations. Upcoming liquidity bridges on Base and Solana are poised to unlock a flood of new capital, potentially closing the massive valuation gap between subnets and their centralized counterparts.
  • Specialization Unlocks Performance. ZEUS proves that a decentralized network of specialized AI agents can outperform monolithic, state-of-the-art models, achieving a nearly 40% lower error rate in weather forecasting.
  • Revenue Sharing is the Next Evolution. The plan to distribute API revenue directly to network participants in stablecoins represents a major step toward sustainable subnet economies, moving beyond token buybacks and emission-based rewards.
  • The Valuation Gap is the Opportunity. Despite massive potential, subnets have extremely low market caps compared to their Web2 equivalents. For long-term believers, this asymmetry presents a compelling, albeit early, investment thesis.

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This episode reveals how ZEUS is achieving a nearly 40% improvement in weather forecasting accuracy over state-of-the-art models, positioning itself to disrupt the billion-dollar energy trading market.

Introduction to ZEUS: Beyond the Consumer Weather App

  • Target Audience: The primary users are not individuals but enterprises. Wouter identifies key markets such as energy grid forecasting, high-performance sports like Formula 1, and commodity traders who rely on precise weather outcomes.
  • The Value Proposition: For these users, a marginal improvement in accuracy can translate into millions of dollars. Wouter explains, "We mainly want to focus on companies that highly depend on accurate weather data... your Apple app or your Google app will stay the same... and we're fine with that."

A Novel Approach to Weather Forecasting

  • Decentralized, Localized Models: Instead of fine-tuning a single large model, ZEUS incentivizes its miners to develop and run smaller, highly specialized models for specific geographic locations. A miner in the Bittensor ecosystem is a participant who provides computational resources or AI models to a subnet in exchange for rewards.
  • Performance-Based Incentives: The system tracks the historical performance of each miner for specific areas. The best-performing miner for a given location is then selected to provide the forecast for that query. This competitive, decentralized method allows miners to excel in niche areas.
  • Proven Results: Wouter highlights a recently published paper demonstrating the model's success. He states that by intelligently combining the best local forecasts, ZEUS achieves a 30-39.8% lower error rate on temperature prediction compared to state-of-the-art models.

The ZEUS Validation Mechanism

  • Validators and Benchmarking: Validators are network participants who assess the quality of miners' outputs and distribute rewards accordingly. In ZEUS, validators use an API that queries multiple state-of-the-art models (like ERA5 Climate) to establish a performance benchmark.
  • Dual-Reward System: Miners are rewarded based on two criteria:
    1. Accuracy: Half of the reward is based on how close their forecast is to the actual measured weather data.
    2. Beating the Benchmark: The other half is awarded for outperforming the state-of-the-art model benchmark. This incentivizes miners not just to be accurate, but to be better than the best existing solutions.
  • Iterative Expansion: ZEUS is introducing new weather variables one by one (e.g., precipitation, wind speed), ensuring they can beat the benchmark for each before moving to the next. This methodical approach aims to build a comprehensively superior forecasting model over one to two years.

Business Model and Go-to-Market Strategy

  • Targeting Energy Trading: The first major market is energy trading, where predicting the output of solar and wind farms is critical for price forecasting. The next variable being introduced is wind speed at 100 meters, the typical height of wind turbines.
  • Total Addressable Market (TAM): Wouter identifies the weather-driven energy trading niche as a "more than a billion dollar industry yearly." He expresses confidence that ZEUS's superior accuracy will make its API indispensable for traders in this space.
  • Path to Revenue: Once two or three more key variables are integrated and proven, ZEUS plans to begin selling its API to energy traders and other enterprise clients.

Team, Funding, and the Future of Miner Incentives

  • Expertise-Driven Origin: The core team includes AI graduates from the University of Amsterdam. A key machine learning engineer on the team conducted research on AI weather forecasting at Cambridge and is presenting a state-of-the-art climate forecasting paper at ICML, a top-tier AI conference.
  • A New Incentive Model: Mark poses a critical question: if ZEUS becomes highly profitable, why not abandon the decentralized subnet (a specialized network within the Bittensor ecosystem) and operate as a traditional company?
  • Revenue Sharing with Miners: Wouter's response is a strategic insight for investors. He states that ZEUS needs its decentralized miners to achieve its superior performance. To ensure their long-term alignment, ZEUS plans to share future API revenue directly with the miners. Wouter explains, "As soon as we are starting to make money, we will just give it back to miners... we want to keep this performance." This could involve direct crypto payments (e.g., USDC) to miner wallets, a departure from the common token buyback model.

The Broader Bittensor Ecosystem and Subnet Investing

  • Improving Liquidity: Mark highlights upcoming solutions like Sturdy and Void, which aim to simplify investing in subnet tokens by allowing purchases with USDC/ETH on EVM-compatible chains or via wrapped tokens on Solana. Wouter agrees these are positive steps but believes true mass adoption will require integration into major, user-friendly crypto applications.
  • The Nature of Subnet Tokens: The conversation explores whether subnet tokens are merely "meme coins" for their projects. Wouter and Mark draw a parallel to traditional stocks like Tesla, suggesting that much of their value is also narrative-driven. However, Wouter notes that large token holders in a subnet can influence its direction, creating a governance dynamic similar to shareholder activism.
  • Investment Thesis for Subnets: Despite high token dilution, Mark and Wouter argue that the current low market caps of subnets present a compelling risk/reward opportunity. Wouter suggests, "If you truly believe in a product, just invest into it. Wait for 10 years just like with Bitcoin in 2010 and then you will see the results." The low valuations incentivize teams to build real products rather than rely on hype.

Threats, Longevity, and the "Immaculate Conception" of Bittensor

  • The Moat of Decentralization: Wouter argues that a VC-backed competitor would likely suffer from centralized ownership, undermining the trust and collaborative ethos that makes Bittensor effective. He believes Bittensor's fair launch and wide token distribution are a critical defense.
  • The Importance of a Fair Launch: Both speakers agree that Bittensor's relatively quiet, non-hyped beginning was crucial for its health, allowing for a more organic and decentralized distribution of its native token, TAO. This prevents the concentration of power seen in many VC-led projects and fosters a stronger, more resilient community.

Conclusion

This discussion underscores that ZEUS's decentralized model is not a gimmick but a strategic advantage yielding quantifiable, superior results in weather forecasting. For investors and researchers, ZEUS represents a prime example of a Bittensor subnet with a clear product-market fit, a tangible path to revenue, and an innovative plan for long-term incentive alignment.

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