This episode reveals Charles Hoskinson's long-term strategic playbook—how Cardano plans to capture value from Bitcoin DeFi, real-world assets, and a principled approach to decentralization that defies conventional market metrics.
From Crypto Pioneer to Diversified Innovator
- Real-World Testbeds: Hoskinson now operates an 11,000-acre bison ranch, a medical clinic with 15,000 patients, and a biotech R&D program. He frames these ventures as practical laboratories for developing blockchain applications in supply chain tracking, electronic health records, and medical data monetization.
- Venture Studio Expansion: His venture studio, Input Output, is building projects beyond Cardano, including the privacy-centric blockchain Midnight and the quantum-resistant project Quantum Hosky. This reflects a strategy of tackling diverse verticals like privacy, GameFi, and enterprise solutions.
- Core Philosophy: Hoskinson emphasizes that crypto's ultimate purpose is not just to be a financial asset but a tool for systemic change. "The purpose of cryptocurrencies is to rewrite the economic, political, and social systems of the world," he states, arguing that real-world integration is necessary for crypto to achieve its mission.
Assessing Crypto's Progress and Frustrations
- Technological Gaps: He argues that the industry's failure to solve for privacy and identity has been a major roadblock to mainstream adoption. Real-world business requires both public and private components, and without a native, programmable privacy layer, blockchain applications remain tethered to centralized systems, defeating their purpose.
- The Final Mile for Adoption: Hoskinson identifies programmable privacy as the key to unlocking real-world use cases and bringing in the next billion users. He positions his work on Midnight as the "fourth generation" of crypto technology, designed to solve this final piece of the puzzle and make blockchain technology as ubiquitous and invisible as the internet.
Deconstructing Cardano's Market Metrics
- The UTXO Advantage: He explains that Cardano uses an EUTXO (Extended Unspent Transaction Output) model, a more advanced version of Bitcoin's accounting system. This allows a single Cardano transaction to bundle hundreds of distinct events (e.g., an NFT mint, a DEX swap, and a payment), making direct TPS comparisons with account-based models like Ethereum's misleading. A lower TPS can indicate higher efficiency, not lower usage.
- The TVL Anomaly: Hoskinson points out that if Cardano's staked ADA (currently securing the network) were counted in its TVL, as it is for some other chains, its TVL would be approximately $14 billion, placing it near the top of industry rankings.
- Strategic Focus: He dismisses chasing short-term metrics, stating his focus is on long-term fundamentals and positioning Cardano for future growth waves, such as Real-World Assets (RWAs) and Bitcoin DeFi, which he believes will dwarf current DeFi markets.
The Philosophy of the Cardano Community
- A Principled Stand: He argues that everyday people are drawn to Cardano's focus on decentralization, formal methods (a rigorous, mathematical approach to software development that enhances security), and its mission to solve societal problems like election integrity and corporate whistleblowing.
- Storytelling and Mission: Unlike protocols that market themselves on TPS and yield, Cardano's narrative centers on creating a fairer, more transparent world. Hoskinson's consistent, mission-driven communication resonates with a global community that feels disenfranchised by current systems. "They look to crypto and they say, 'This is the escape valve for us to get out,'" he explains.
Navigating Crypto's Political Landscape
- Legislative Focus: His primary focus has been on the legislative process, working with lawmakers on bills like the Clarity Act. He believes that well-written laws are essential to prevent future regulatory attacks and provide the stability needed for institutional adoption.
- Bipartisan Imperative: While acknowledging the industry's current alignment with the Republican party, he warns against crypto becoming a partisan wedge issue. He argues that the technology is intrinsically bipartisan and that alienating Democrats is a long-term strategic mistake, especially given that many young, wealthy crypto holders are politically liberal.
A Proposal for the Cardano Treasury
- Strategic Goals: The primary goals are to "prime the pump" for key growth areas:
- Stablecoin Issuance: Minting $25-50 million in stablecoins annually to deepen on-chain liquidity.
- Bitcoin DeFi: Seeding the ecosystem with $50-100 million in Bitcoin to demonstrate and attract Bitcoin-native yield opportunities.
- A Sovereign Wealth Fund: The vision is for the treasury to function like a sovereign wealth fund, generating a passive return that can be used to buy back ADA or be deployed for strategic ecosystem investments.
The Investment Case: ADA vs. BTC
- Asymmetric Upside: He argues that while Bitcoin might see a 10x return, Cardano's potential is far greater, in the range of 100x to 1000x. He cites Cardano's historical outperformance since its ICO, where it generated nearly 3x the value of holding the initial Bitcoin raised.
- Future Value Accrual: Hoskinson identifies two key drivers for ADA's future value:
- Bitcoin DeFi: Cardano is positioned to become a primary yield-generating layer for the multi-trillion-dollar Bitcoin market.
- Partner Chain Airdrops: The launch of partner chains like Midnight will include significant airdrops to ADA holders, creating new, direct revenue streams. The Midnight airdrop is expected in the second half of this year.
- Quote: "Of course, [ADA will outperform BTC] because how much farther can Bitcoin go? Maybe to a million. Okay, it's a 10x. ADA can go 100x, a thousandx."
Cardano's Unique Origins and Untapped Liquidity
- The Japanese Holders: The 2015 crowd sale brought in nearly 10,000 new users from Japan who bought ADA with fiat. Due to a "buy and hold" culture and high capital gains taxes (55%), a significant portion of this supply has never been sold.
- A $15 Billion DeFi Catalyst: Hoskinson estimates that roughly 50% of the ADA supply, valued at around $15 billion, remains in Japan. This represents a massive, dormant pool of capital. Once on-chain lending and yield products are available, these holders can generate returns without selling, potentially injecting billions into Cardano's DeFi ecosystem overnight.
The "Gigachad Bull Run" and a New Market Cycle
- The Catalyst: He identifies the passage of comprehensive U.S. crypto legislation, like the Clarity Act, as the primary catalyst that will unlock institutional capital and the entry of major tech companies.
- Altcoin Season: He anticipates that once Bitcoin's price begins to stall, capital will rotate into altcoins, leading to a massive surge in value for protocols with strong fundamentals like Cardano.
A Live Look at the Cardano Network
- To demonstrate the network's vitality, Hoskinson directs viewers to eutxo.org, a real-time visualizer of Cardano's blockchain activity. The visualization shows large, complex transaction blocks, each containing numerous distinct operations, underscoring his point about the efficiency of the EUTXO model. He presents this as tangible proof of a thriving, decentralized ecosystem built by a global community, not just one person.
Conclusion
Hoskinson's vision positions Cardano not as a competitor in today's metrics, but as foundational infrastructure for tomorrow's decentralized economy. For investors and researchers, the key takeaways are to monitor Cardano's strategic integration with Bitcoin DeFi and to watch for the upcoming Midnight airdrop as major catalysts for this long-term strategy.